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Optionality Collapse: We're Investing in a Future That Won't Exist | Spirit Tech Collective
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PodcastThe Great Simplification · Episode 238

Optionality Collapse: We're Investing in a Future That Won't Exist

With Indy Johar

Oct 14, 2026 · 89 min listen · Hosted by Nate Hagens

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Why we're sharing it

Indy Johar, founder of Dark Matter Labs, is one of the foremost names in systems change. This episode he argues the economy is about to stop needing us twice over, first as labour and then as cognition, and asks what's left of being human if it does. His answer turns toward consciousness, human and machine, and toward a harder question: what are the AGI labs really chasing?

Chosen by the Spirit Tech Collective · From the far side of finance

Questions this episode explores

  1. 1What does it mean to be human?
  2. 2What's left of the human experience if AI takes labour and cognition?
  3. 3Are the AGI labs already hunting consciousness, and do they know it?
  4. 4What would a frontier lab on human, and beyond-human, consciousness look like?

About the show

The Great Simplification explores the systems science underpinning the human predicament. Through conversations with experts and leaders hosted by Dr. Nate Hagens, it covers ecology, economics, energy, geopolitics, human behavior and monetary and financial systems.

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